Below is a fragment of a conversation I was having with Omimelli, whilst I was exploring the concept of Spirit Guides and Egun. I have reproduced it here because I think that it poses some interesting questions.
So tell me more about this concept you have in your head…
I have been thinking about ancestor reverence, it has been around for 1000’s years
practiced by some very old religions.
We shall take ancestors spirits as a fact for the following:
along comes spiritualism
only 100 years ago
Spiritualists contact some spirits
they proclaim them ‘guides’
when perhaps all they are doing is connecting to Egún
they just did not have the concept of Egún to realise…
there are more elevated spirits that guide many people
eg Jose Gregorio, etc…
but they are in the minority
I dunno, do you think the early spiritualists really understood who they were connecting with?
Well, from my point of view, spiritualists were looking to fill a cultural/religious void.
They wanted to prove that there was life after this physical life, thus
through the help of talented mediums they created a system based on those spiritual concepts revealed
to them. However, I have to say that it would be silly to peg everything under a cultural background,
such as the one from Spiritualists from the 19th Century.
I think it is actually healthy to have divisions,
some folks will not relate with the Egún concept
because it is African and they are not…
What do you think?
Ok, ancestors may be a more common term
everybody has ancestors (or I hope so ^^)
Yes, we certainly are not born from coconut trees…
But what if these spirits are not linked to us. Are they still considered ancestors?
Kal has spirits that do not claim to be linked by ancestry
they are just there as part of his spiritual framework.
I have some that are not related to me either.
I am not saying they HAVE to be ancestors
but that maybe most ‘guides’
may be ancestors
without us realising that.
So is this really a matter of semantics?
I am not sure.
Your spirits & Kal’s that aren’t connected to you guys , they must be someone else’s ancestors.
Well maybe, what if they did not had children?
Like the spirit of Kal’s who was a Catholic priest and functions as a gatekeeper for most of his spirits.
Indeed what happens to people with no children ?
How can they be elevated?
What happens to the 1000’s of ancestors we have forgotten?
As we will be eventually be forgotten…
Well I like to think I will be remembered in the moyugba of my children and godchildren!
I think that what happens is that they get assigned to folks like Kal or anyone else.
Look, there will be tons of spirits who will not get elevated in the Kardecian concept in the lifetime of
the person they are assigned to.
Think of it Janus…
not everyone has spiritual awareness in the way we do.
So perhaps part of the elevation process is for that spirit to work within those parameters and limitations.
For example, if you are a spirit and assigned to a Muslim, do you think he will be setting up a boveda for you?